In the second part of the role-play, the debate intensifies as participants embody conflicting interests and emotional stakes. In the business owner role, a participant responds with strong emotion, arguing that the municipality unfairly targets small businesses and reframing the issue as systemic rather than individual, insisting that “the problem isn’t cars themselves, but the number of cars and people,” and pressing the municipality to present concrete plans for better public transport while urging the group to “look at the bigger picture.” In response, the municipality official role reasserts an institutional, solution-oriented narrative, proposing that additional taxes on larger industries could generate resources to invest in public transport, attempting to channel the tension into a pragmatic policy pathway.